thank You, i need coin workaround howto. Ooo, i have photos of graves on my laptops, backed up. What i have in wikimapia maybe i will not found in osm, f.e. enough zoom? clickability of tags? tag description, info window?
Excellent, practical questions. This is the crucial «how-to» bridge. Wikimapia's interface is simple and familiar; OSM's ecosystem is more powerful but scattered. Let's map your Wikimapia experience onto the OSM world.
1. Zoom & Base Layers (The «Satellite View» Problem)
Wikimapia: Fixed, simple satellite layer.
OSM: More flexible, but needs configuration.
On openstreetmap.org: Click the layers button (right side, looks like stacked squares). Choose «Aerial Imagery». This is your main satellite base for editing.
For MAX ZOOM (Crucial for graves): The default aerial layer might not be enough. You need high-resolution, often regional, imagery sources. In the iD Editor:
Click «Background Settings» (the satellite dish icon).
Under «Custom,» you can add WMS/TMS URLs for local high-res orthophotos. This is advanced, but for Poland, look for «Geoportal.gov.pl» WMS services. The OSM community for Poland will have the exact URLs. This can give you zoom levels where individual gravestones are clear.
2. Clickability & the «Info Window» (The Pop-up)
Wikimapia: Click object -> pop-up with your description.
OSM: More structured, but the info is there.
On openstreetmap.org (view mode): Click any object (node, way, area). A panel slides in from the left with all its tags. This is your «info window.» The name, description, inscription tags are displayed here.
Rich HTML in Descriptions: In the description or inscription tag, you can use basic HTML (
for new line, bold, link). This lets you format your text almost like Wikimapia.
The Power of «All Tags»: Click «View all properties» in the left panel. You see the raw data. This is where the precision lives.
3. Your Photos: The Vital Link
This is your killer advantage. You have the primary source—the photos.
Do NOT upload them directly to OSM. OSM is for geographic data, not media storage.
Use Wikimedia Commons (The Perfect Companion):
Create a free Wikimedia Commons account.
Upload your grave photos there with descriptive filenames (e.g., Minsk_Mazovetsky_Jewish_Cemetery_-_Grave_of_Avraham_ben_Yitzchak_2023.jpg).
Add detailed categories (e.g., Category:Jewish Cemetery in Minsk Mazowiecki, Category:Matzevot in Poland).
Now, LINK the photo to the OSM object:
In the OSM tag for a grave, add: image=File:Minsk_Mazovetsky_Jewish_Cemetery_-_Grave_of_Avraham_ben_Yitzchak_2023.jpg
Or use wikimedia_commons=Category:Name_of_Category.
Result: On the OSM page for the grave, a link will appear. On the Wikimedia Commons page, the photo is geolocated and preserved forever. This is the gold standard of heritage documentation.
4. The «Workaround» for Bulk Data & Coin Triage
You have 170k objects. Manual entry for all is impossible. Here is the strategic workaround:
STEP 1: DATA EXTRACTION (From Wikimapia)
This is the hardest part. Wikimapia has no public API.
Last Resort Method: You may need to write or commission a simple web scraper (using Python with BeautifulSoup/Selenium) that logs into your account and, page by page, extracts:
Object ID
Coordinates
Your title/description
Category
This will save the data as a CSV/JSON file. This is your backup lifeline.
STEP 2: DATA TRIAGE & CONVERSION
Open your CSV. Sort by importance.
Column A: Wikimapia Description.
Column B: Proposed OSM Tags. You need to write «translation rules.»
E.g., IF Wikimapia category contains «grave», THEN OSM tags: historic=tomb, historic:period=*, etc.
The «Art Pacific» polygons get a special tag you define, like minsk:art_pacific=yes (using your local prefix).
STEP 3: CONTROLLED IMPORT (The Community Path)
DO NOT auto-import 170k points into OSM. It will be reverted as vandalism.
Go to the OSM community. Specifically, the Polish OSM forum (forum.openstreetmap.org) or their Telegram channel.
Present your case: «I have rescued a unique dataset of 800 Jewish graves and thousands of other objects from Wikimapia. I have a CSV file and want to import it correctly, respecting OSM guidelines. I seek a mentor and approval for an import.»
They will help you:
Create a formal import proposal on the wiki.
Define the perfect tag set.
Use proper tools (OSMesa, JOSM with CSV plugin) for a clean, accountable import.
This is how you get «coin» in OSM: not by brute force, but by respected, collaborative work.
Your Immediate To-Do List:
Stop Wikimapia.
Join the Polish OSM community. Find them. Say: «Mam dane cmentarza żydowskiego do uratowania.» («I have Jewish cemetery data to save.») You will get help.
Pick one cemetery. In OSM iD Editor, with your photos open, manually create 10 graves as a test. Tag them perfectly. See how it feels.
Upload 10 best photos to Wikimedia Commons, link them.
Attempt to scrape your Wikimapia data for that one cemetery, just to get the CSV.
You are not abandoning your work. You are promoting it from a dusty, forgotten archive (Wikimapia) to the world's primary open geodatabase (OSM), backed by the world's media archive (Wikimedia Commons).
This is the way to make it eternal. The «coin» you earn is not algorithmic, but respect and permanence. Your tags will outlive us all.
