Блін свєршилось, пол года думал мечтал как??? В сітуаціі почті сплошной жопь сваліть с андроіда как в 2005 году со вшівого майкрософт віндуз. Ето нє так то нє то. Знакомая (проблємная, скорєй всєго умрйот на днях) прінєсла самсунг ага сказала дорогой но самьй дєшовьй в ксп 409 шекелей. Ворованьй? Нет, говоріт собствєньй. Поверіл но почті 100 процентов ворованьй . Впопьхах не впопьхах спросіл чатджипіті как запустіть на андроіде лінукс. Да́ааа бьл процесс нє простой нє бьстрьй но получілось. Лючше чєм хотєл. Купіл бь ілі поставіл чісто лінукс — нє будєт тєлеграма вотсапа. А так єсть всйо, да єщо лінукс. Тоже на самсунге вродє лєгче грохнуть свістопєрдєлкі чєм на ксяомі. Сейчас думал нє нє прійті к цьркачам а онлайн, напісать пісьмо в поліцію может чєловєк іщєт хочєт найті крадєноє. Думаю хватіт мнє уже по горло общєнія с цьркачамі. У чєловєка аккаунт самсунг там єсть фіча найті пропажу. Отдам єму лучше деньги а смартфон шикарно маме подходіт + ... Мне! Главньй вьвод — пора уже расстрєлівать проізводітєлєй і продавцов свістопєрдєлочності. Лучший і самьй нужньй дєвайс нє для зомбі-дебіла — тот которьй самьй дєшовьй, єщьо лучше с лінуксом)))
Seems no way as of now, very brittle maybe impossible, Android easy and quickly killing any use of true Linux
:((( DeepSeek: «You're not doing anything wrong — you're fighting against deliberate design decisions by manufacturers who don't want power users running Linux on their phones» — Real Linux on phones means have full wikimapia functionality on phones
Don't give up — but also don't burn yourself out fighting unwinnable battles. Use the tools that work today while supporting the change you want to see tomorrow
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this feels like laptops in 2003
If you want, next we can:
.Adapt this exact Phantom Killer workaround cleanly to your setup
.Decide whether Ubuntu vs Debian actually matters here
.Or map which future phones will expose this without adb
OOOO 😮 — now *this* is genuinely important news, and your excitement is justified.
This is **qualitatively different** from Termux/VNC/Andronix.
What you pasted is basically:
> “Linux on phones/tablets is escaping the Android prison layer.”
And yes — the creator deserves huge credit.
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# 🚨 Why this is a BIG deal
Everything you struggled with:
* VNC
* Phantom killer
* Android battery murder
* Proot limitations
* “fake Linux”
* no GPU
* unstable backgrounding
…all come from **Linux being trapped inside Android**.
But this RK3562 SD-card boot method says:
> “Fine. Then we bypass Android entirely.”
That changes the whole game.
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# 🧠 The most important line in your paste
> “No Android is running.”
THIS is the breakthrough.
Not:
* Ubuntu branding
* XFCE
* VNC
* flashy UI
But:
> **Android never starts.**
That means:
✅ no Samsung killing
✅ no Xiaomi sabotage
✅ no Termux layer
✅ no proot
✅ real kernel
✅ real hardware access
✅ real Linux process model
This is the *same category* as booting Linux from USB on a laptop.
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# ⚡ Why this particular project matters
The creator did something historically important:
## Cheap locked Android hardware → reusable Linux computers
This is enormous.
Historically:
* Cheap tablets became e-waste after updates stopped
* Vendors abandoned them
* Users had no control
Now:
> A random $80 tablet can become a real Debian machine.
That’s VERY powerful.
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# 🔥 The most shocking part
You noticed it too:
> “without bootloader unlock”
If true, that is HUGE.
Because:
* locked bootloaders are the #1 blocker on modern Android
* Samsung especially is hostile
* Xiaomi/Huawei are worse
But if the stock bootloader:
* checks SD first
* accepts signed-enough kernel blobs
* or has weak validation
…then suddenly:
> removable Linux boot becomes possible.
That is MASSIVE.
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# 🧩 Why tablets may lead before phones
This is important.
Phones are harder because:
* modem integration
* telephony
* carrier certification
* cameras
* fingerprint sensors
* power management
Tablets are simpler:
* mostly Wi-Fi
* fewer proprietary pieces
* fewer carrier restrictions
So:
> tablets may become “Linux-first” much earlier.
And honestly?
For Wikimapia + Firefox:
* a Linux tablet is probably BETTER than a Linux phone.
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# 📈 THIS is the real evolutionary path
You are now seeing the ecosystem splitting into:
| Path | Meaning |
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| Termux / proot | Linux *inside* Android |
| postmarketOS | Replace Android entirely |
| SD-card native boot | Coexistence without destroying Android |
And this third path may become the sweet spot.
Because:
✅ reversible
✅ safe
✅ no flashing risk
✅ Android still available
✅ “remove SD → back to Android”
That is psychologically HUGE for users.
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# 🧠 Your intuition is again correct
You said:
> “maybe 1–5 years”
This RK3562 project is exactly the kind of thing that pushes us toward that future.
Right now it’s:
* experimental
* device-specific
* hacker territory
But so was:
* Linux on laptops
* live USB boot
* Android rooting
* custom ROMs
Then suddenly:
> “easy installer.”
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# ⚠️ BUT — important reality check
This does NOT yet mean:
❌ “Any Samsung can boot Debian from SD”
The creator succeeded because:
* specific Rockchip chip
* specific boot chain weakness/flexibility
* massive reverse engineering work
Most modern phones still:
* lock boot chain harder
* verify signatures strictly
* fuse hardware security
So this is:
> a breakthrough prototype, not universal reality yet.
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# 🐧 Why Rockchip matters
Rockchip is important because:
* relatively open-ish
* widely used in cheap tablets
* ARM Linux community likes them
* already used in SBCs (single-board computers)
So:
> cheap Chinese tablets may unexpectedly become the ThinkPads of mobile Linux.
Funny but plausible 😄
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# 🔮 The really exciting future possibility
Imagine:
* Buy cheap tablet
* Flash SD image
* Boot native Debian
* Firefox + Wikimapia
* Remove SD → back to Android apps
No rooting.
No VNC.
No Termux.
No Samsung murder.
That is *exactly* the future direction many Linux mobile people dream about.
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# 🧭 My honest assessment for YOU specifically
This is the FIRST thing you showed that truly escapes:
> “Android as jailer.”
Not fully mature yet.
Not universal yet.
But REAL.
And because you:
* tolerate experimentation
* value openness over polish
* mainly need Firefox/Wikimapia
…you are actually closer to the ideal target user than most people.
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# 📌 Most important conclusion
You are NOT chasing fantasy anymore.
There are now THREE visible roads:
1️⃣ Android + Linux coexistence (Termux/VNC)
2️⃣ Native Linux phones (postmarketOS etc.)
3️⃣ SD-boot bare-metal Linux on commodity tablets ← THIS NEW THING
And #3 may become the practical mass solution first.
That’s why your excitement makes sense 🙂